Neal Horgan interview, UCC Express November 2007.

Ahead of his side’s clash with Longford Town in this Sunday’s FAI Cup final, Cork City right-back and UCC graduate Neal Horgan returned to his alma mater to talk to String about study, slaggings and step-overs

UCC graduate Neal Horgan is a fixture in the Cork City defence, and was part of the outstanding team that brought the Eircom League title back to the Capital of Culture in 2005.

Almost as impressive as their domestic achievements were their achievements in Europe, where, punching well above the Eircom League’s weight, they defeated Swedish champions-elect Malmo and Djurgarden in consecutive seasons.

They also shocked Dutch first division side NEC Nijmegen, then under the tutelage of the 1970’s Dutch footballing legend and current FC Barcelona assistant manager Johan Neeskens, as well Cypriot champions Limassol, and putting up commendable displays against the likes of FC Nantes, Red Star Belgrade, and Slavia Prague.

Horgan’s former team-mates such as Kevin Doyle, Alan Bennett and Roy O’Donovan have since moved onto Premiership football and City subsequently found it difficult to build on their success.

But this year, Horgan has helped the side to the final of the FAI Cup, in which they will meet Longford Town this Sunday, and rebel hearts will dare to dream again.

Sadly for the right-back, a booking in the semi-final victory over Bohemians means he will be forced to watch the game on the sidelines, but with new investors in place and a strong second half showing this season, the future is looking bright.

Off the field, Horgan has been very busy academically. He graduated from UCC with a BA in history ad geography in 2001, and went on to do a hDip in management and marketing at the college.

He continued his studies by taking a diploma in legal studies, passing his Blackhall exams in 2006. At the start of the current season, he toyed with the idea of continuing his studies in law in the US, and trained with Major League Soccer (MLS) outfit Colorado Rapids.

However, the strict salary caps governing MLS playing contracts means that player wages can be very low, even compared to Eircom League clubs.
After much deliberation, Horgan felt that his interests would best be served by remaining with Cork City, where his current contract runs up until the end of the 2008 season.

He is an advocate of footballers taking the opportunity to study instead of risking everything by moving to England in their teens, insisting that it provides a valuable safety net.

“I obviously don’t know first hand, but once you come through trials there it’s all football from a very young age,” he says.

“It’s nice to able to study, and I’m glad I was lucky enough to have the chance to combine both. A lot of players from here head over to England when they’re 16 or 17, and not all of these players are going to make it.
“The English clubs have the money, and it’s a numbers game. It’s great now that the Eircom League is full-time and can absorb some of these lads. But the problem is that the league still works to short-term contracts.
“So you come back, but what then if you get injured, or maybe lose your place, and then your contract isn’t renewed? Suddenly you find yourself having to start again from scratch without so much as a Leaving Certificate to back you up. It can be a cruel game.”

Having sampled life in the lecture halls of UCC and the hallowed turf of Turner’s Cross, Horgan believes there is great potential for a link-up between the college and his club.

“It’s a shame that nobody has brought it about yet. Why not give fellas an alternative to heading over to Britain? Instead they could stay here and get their qualifications,” he says, adding that the Eircom League is now a viable stepping stone to the Premiership.

Even before he chose to study at UCC, Horgan had links to the college. His late father Patrick lectured in Law at the College, and coached the UCC team back in the day.

“I grew up supporting College in the Harling and Collingwood cups, and my favourite player back then was Dave Morley [brother of City legend Pat]”” he says.

“The day before a City game, I used to take a stroll through the main campus. It was a great way to relax and get away from it all.”
He cracks a smile as he recalls the stick he got in the City dressing room on account of his studies.

“God, yeah, The lads are still calling me the student!” he laughs. “Some of the lads were very well turned out, so they used be mocking my ‘student’ clothes. Neale Fenn used to rip me apart. It was all good craic though.”

Horgan was too busy with his City commitments to play with College, but did join up with the 32-county Irish Universities team to compete in the World Student Games in China.

The team was coached by UCC’s Canice Kennedy, and featured fellow UCC students such as David Spratt and Alan Weldon, both currently playing in the Munster Senior League, as well as Michael Mulconnery and Tony Tynan, who recently helped rivals Cobh Ramblers’ march to the Eircom League first division title.

“The lads are still calling me the student! Some of them were very well turned out, so they used be mocking my ‘student’ clothes. Neale Fenn used to rip me apart. It was all good craic though” – Neal Horgan on getting stick in the Cork City dressing room during his time at UCC

He has come up against some quality players in his time. But who were the standouts?

“[Drogheda’s] Ollie Cahill is a great player. He’s won so much since he left City, and he plays on the left so he’s a direct opponent,” he offers.
“Outside of the Eircom League, I played against Nikola Zigic [6’7’ Valencia striker, then of Red Star Belgrade] in the Champions League qualifiers last year, and I was pleased with my performance. I even beat him to a header!

“I can remember coming up against Bolton’s Jay Jay Okocha a while back too. He used to have this trick, a sort of double step-over with a change of direction. He was in front of me and I knew exactly what he was going to do. “So I thought ‘right, I’ll show him’, but we both ended up colliding, and quick as that he was on his feet and gone. But it’s a real privilege to play against players of that calibre.”

It’s been a difficult season for Cork City, who found it difficult to find form early on and have underachieved since their title win two years ago.
“We’ve lost so many players since 2005, and haven’t really been able to replace them,” he says.

“But getting the likes of Gareth Farrelly and Colin Healy has been a massive boost. Both of them have played for Ireland, and of course Joe Gamble has made international squads, so we’re very strong now in the middle of the park.

“Getting the investors on board should help us in a big way too next season. It’s been very frustrating, contending first with Shels and then with Drogheda, spending big, stockpiling players they didn’t necessarily need, and weakening other team’s squads.”

City missed out on the fire sale at relegated Shelbourne due to lack of funds, but Horgan clearly feels that things are looking up for the future.
“The cup final is going to be great, even though I can’t be out there,” he says. “Unlike in England, the FAI Cup’s significance hasn’t been diluted by the focus on Europe. It’s still a major thing. It won’t be easy. Longford are a good team, and were very unlucky to be relegated. The point deduction killed them in the end.

“It must be a sickener to have finished as strongly as they have, so they’ll be up for it. Some of our lads have been there and lost [in 2005]. That really hurt. So they’ll be looking to put that right”.

Looking ahead to next season, Horgan says that City can maintain their league challenge provided they hang onto their best players and compete in the transfer market. Long-term, he’s unfussed about what the future holds.

“My contract runs to December next year. So we’ll see how it goes. If I don’t end up extending it beyond that, I’ll begin my apprenticeship as a solicitor. It’s nice to have that option. Going to college and playing sport compliment each other massively. It simply cannot be recommended strongly enough.”



(Photography by the UCC Express's rather marvelous Eoin Tyrrell )

Inner City Cut Down in its Prime

The Report was shocked and saddened to hear this week of Inner City's untimely demise.

An incredible lack of foresight from Feddies.

The following press statement was issued by the Inner City crew just over a week ago:


The LAST Innercity; Friday May 25th
After more or less 3 years of running both BASS and Innercity we have decided to lay our weekly nights to rest for the foreseeable future. Our last night is on May 25th so please do come and say farewell at a special resident’s night.

We have all had a great laugh over the past few years; be it playing to thousands of people on Patrick’s Street, getting Derrick May to hold a lecture in Cork or just going to Innercity every Friday and watching 350 people turn up to see local DJ’s.

We want to say thanks most importantly to all our loyal regulars who have attended our nights religiously over the past few years. It is due to them that we got to hold all the weird and wonderful events.

Also thanks to all our sponsors, venues and supporters who have helped us to promote and bring some of the best names in electronic music to play in Cork.

You can see us this week at both Fast Eddies on Friday and Electric City in Dublin on Thursday and most importantly at our last Innercity on May 25th.

You can still of course catch us at the Bodytonic Tent @ the Electric Picnic in September where we will be sure to give everything a huge send off.

Cheers,
The Innercity Crew


Except, we didn't even get that in the end. Feddies pulled the plug on the final night, as the following posting informed us:


So I got an e-mail from club last night to say they will not be hosting Innercity this Friday @ Fast Eddies.

I don't actually know why they have decided upon this as I did not receive a reason.

So sorry but there will be no last hurrah for Innercity in Cork it seems.


So I guess that's it from Inner City for the time being at least. Sad to see Cork's most exciting and freshest club-night having the plug pulled on it, at a time when there were talks with Carl Craig, amongst others, to play in the coming months.

A sad day for music in Cork.

Hopefully the bass crew will get another night up and running before too long.

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Nellboy

Can there be anything more teeth-grindingly frustrating than getting caught in an unexpectedly large ATM queue when you’re already cutting it fine? I negotiated the queue and made my way to the area in front of the stage inside the Bróg. Usually, you would expect there to be a reasonable crowd, mostly huddled around the TV set when it’s a Champions League Wednesday in An Bróg; and if there’s live music to be had, all well and good, as people begin to shuffle across to indulge their curiosity after the final whistle blows. There was one crucial difference on this night, with the clock sitting just short of 9.30, as I ordered from the bar; we already had a crowd, and they weren’t paying much attention to the television set at the old bar. A bit later on, Arm The Elderly would be here to launch their new EP; but now, as Nellboy took the stage with his one-man show, standing room with a view was in scarce supply, and as for space to park your beverage? Scrap such notions.

Announcing himself to a polite round of applause, he began the set with a few minimal numbers, gradually building up to something more expansive; building up, and bringing it back down, subtle shifts in mood- all filtered keys and layered breakbeats- accompanied with stripped down live vocals, chopped vocal samples, and sleazy bass loops.

The place was starting to fill up, the newer arrivals being met by an ominous-sounding electro bassline, and snatched horns as Nellboy took the microphone for another vocal track, set to a thumping beat. This drew a reaction from the audience before he picked up the electric guitar, and the next track commenced as the crowd really began to swell, with pounding synth keys, jacking beats, and a dark announcement of ‘so deep’ looping with plenty of reverb; a tangible sense of anticipation building among the audience.

Nellboy was back on the microphone for his next number, his vocals worked through the electronic mincer, emerging perched atop the swinging beat and elastic bass groove. The mood became darker and funkier as the set wore on, raw acid basslines filtered and broadened with steadily building keys; pounding bass and hi-hats, heads nodding and feet tapping at the back, bodies bopping and pogoing at the front as our man with the laptop rocked it. Layer upon layer of sounds; breakdowns, dips, peaks, but no troughs; even a deaf man would have found the multitasking taking place utterly engrossing.

As the set wound to a close, everything was stripped back to the core, raw metallic grooves and bouncy basslines. Filtered basslines cut, and slammed back in with acid overtones, a cheers going up as he announced details of his next gig. But getting back to the present, he rounded off the show with a Detroitesque stomper, which built up and down, the sparse keys filtered in and out to a crunching beat, and propelled by incessant, pounding kick-drums, teasing the audience, and speeding it up for the finale. Close your eyes for a second, and you’d wish you were in a club. It was a deftly chosen ending to what was, overall, a marvellous set, and ensured that the biggest cheer of all was the one that followed at its finish.

A few days after the gig, I caught up with Nellboy in the Woodford:

How did you get involved in making music to begin with?

“My introduction to playing music came when I was five years old, when I started playing my sister’s piano. Not long after that, my mother arranged piano lessons for me. I stayed with that right through until I broke my hand at the age of 13. It was after that I first picked up the guitar, and I spent about three years working away on it before I got involved with my first band.”

“My first band was from the ages of 16 to 24. We split in a flurry of abuse and recrimination. ‘Creative differences’, I suppose. After that, I needed to take a bit of time out to figure out exactly what it was that I wanted to do next. I’d been wanting to do something a little bit different, to explore new possibilities. I wrote a drum & bass track on guitar, called Between The Waves. Six months later, I bought a ready-made Mac studio from a mate.”

Are you still working with the same gear today?

“No, I’m not working with that same set-up these days; I’ve pared it down. Now, I’m working on a PC. I don’t think there’s really the same need there once was to go with Mac, the gap has narrowed, and with the right set-up, there’s no real difference these days. I had been using Q-Base for some time, but now I’ve moved on to working with Ableton Live.”

How did your current live set come about? What’s been your favourite gig as Nellboy to date?

“My first gig as Nellboy would have been back around October or November 2004, in the Tikki Lounge, which went well. What’s the gig I’ve enjoyed most so far? That’s a tough one! I really enjoyed a gig I played at the Agora around Christmas, 2004. That was definitely a bit special. Also, early in 2005 I played the Savoy with a full band. That was a good night.”

“I only played one gig in the latter part of 2005, at a festival over in Leeds. Really, between April and December last year, I was putting a lot of work into a new live set. Other gigs I would have enjoyed would have been at Traffic in Dublin, and 110^th Street in Galway. It’s great to get on the road.”

“Before I took the break from gigging, I was beginning to feel that the set had gotten a little bit stale, so I gave it a radical overhaul. When I started again, I felt things were running a lot tighter, and the reaction I got was very satisfying. Headlining at Traffic in Dublin on St Patrick’s Night was a great experience; the set was well received. I really like what the guys there are doing; it’s a nice balance between live acts and DJs, covering the whole underground electronic scene. It’s quite a unique place; well worth a look.”

Which styles of music have you worked at in your time?

“For a while, I was doing some electronic and drum & bass. I did a Hip Hop project with some Cork MCs a couple of years back, which was fun. For the last while, I’ve been doing electro and sort of minimal techno stuff; I’ve been moving on to stuff with filthier, distorted bass lines. There’s a real sense of freedom that comes from doing it all alone; there’s no bad politics, and I can work at my own pace. It’s far more economical in terms of time, and of course having full control over the entire creative process has big advantages.”

What do you think of the Cork live scene right now?

“As far the scene is concerned, I really think there some good rock bands out there at this moment. What I think we could do with are more singers. In terms of the electronic scene, it’s great to see so many young producers working away at home, and coming up with stuff to a high standard, helping each other out, and working together.”

“One producer whose stuff I’m really into is Corrugated Tunnel. From a technical point of view, he’s just superb, and I’ve seen him put on some very impressive gigs. He’s got an album on the way, and will be playing at Electric Picnic. I got talking to him over the net. He’s based up in Dublin, and really helped me out in terms of getting gigs up there, he’s been very helpful.”

What’s your expectation of the scene in Montreal?

“As far as I can make out Montreal’s got a diverse and vibrant scene; both electronic and non-electronic. There’s a lot of good music coming out of there, and Canada as a whole too; Arcade Fire being an obvious example. It’s got the world’s biggest Jazz festival, and a large punk scene. I mean, it’s a decent sized town, 3.5 million people or so. There’s definitely going to be a lot happening there.”

Okay, time for the cliché question: If I had to ask you to pick your favourite album of all time, could you pick one?

“Oh no, you can’t ask me that! I go through phases of listening to a lot of different stuff, be contemporary or otherwise. Right now, I’m really liking Berlinette by Ellen Allien. It’s ridiculous, the melodies are fantastic, and the production is amazingly good. Also, Juan McLean, Almost Human, which is on LCD Soundsystem’s label.”

Sounds good. What are your plans for the future, musically speaking?

“I’m hoping to do some collaboration projects. Electronic rock music, minimal techno, a few different projects really; I’d like to do something with a fully fledged singer from a band. I’ve been really impressed with what Soulwax have been doing, and it’s given me some ideas of my own. It’d be nice to try some rocky, punky, electronic shit with drums and bass guitars. I want to work with different types of artists with fresh ideas. One of the biggest drawbacks for me in Cork is that I just don’t know all that many vocalists. I’ve done some stuff with Elaine Dowling, and she’s been great. I also worked with Cía Intinn from Galway. He’s got this whole ragamuffin thing going on, he’s into is dub and drum & bass; we did a reworked version of Between The Waves together. I want to work with someone who can sing and scream; hopefully I’ll find a proper rocker who I can click with.”

“You know, just after the Bróg gig, I played at City Limits. There was a great crowd, I guess I saw a side of Cork that night that I hadn’t really seen before now. There were a lot of new faces, and everyone seemed really into their music; a really diverse range of people. I honestly believe that the potential is there for a really good scene, but it’s not always easy to strike the right balance. It’s all there, but something the thinking just isn’t progressive enough, and I honestly don’t mean any disrespect to anyone in saying that. Inner City looks to be having the right kind of idea. I’d love to see a night with a band in one room and quality, progressive DJs in the other.”

You mean something along the lines of the Half Moon before?

“Well, sort of. The problem for me with the Half Moon is that they had such a great formula, but it was left alone and allowed to go stale; and by the end there was this sense of it just going through the motions. Nobody seemed to willing to do anything to rectify that. Times change, and you can’t afford to stand still. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what happened in Cork for while. It’s the reason why there’s a whole generation of thirty-something ex-Henry’s heads who are only into house music.”

How do you see things progressing here?

“I wouldn’t be at all surprised if I came back from Montreal and found that something really big was happening here. Like I said; it’s all there, so why not? Things are definitely moving in the right direction. I’d like to be able to put on my own night. I’m seeing it all here now, man. I was inspired by that night in City Limits; it was a real breath of fresh air.”

Is there anyone else out there that you’ve been impressed by lately?

“I’m heading down to Waterford tonight to see Vitalic. I first came across him when I heard a live set of his from Love Techno online. I think the guy’s a potential Mylo in the making, he’s putting out some really good stuff on the poppy side, with genuine crossover potential; he’s really that good! I mean, if you take Mylo, he was happy to do his thing; and when the time came, he was happy to rake in the dollars, which is fair enough really. Since then though I think he’s been happy to stay where he is, and doesn’t seem to be progressing all that much artistically. Fair play to him for making it, because he always put out good quality, polished stuff.”

“It is a bit of an off-putter to hear his stuff wall-to-wall on the radio; it’s getting a bit played out. That’s not me being a snob, or that I have anything against artists getting radio play, or making it big for that matter; far from it. But it’s hard not to get to get a bit fed-up with something when you end up hearing t pretty much non-stop. Now I think Vitalic has great potential; I think he’s even better than Mylo. MCD have him signed up, and he’ll be doing the rounds at the festivals this summer. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see him start getting some radio play, and people catching on to him in a big way. All he best to him too; you just have to look at Gorillaz to see how it’s possible to strike the perfect balance between integrity and pop sensibility.”

Well, following on from that: What are your thoughts on the industry as a whole today?

“Well, just going back two or three years, there was such a monopoly on the means of distribution when it came to music. A small few big players had the market cornered, and bent to their will; essentially, there was no real choice. That’s why it’s been so great to see internet buying increasing at such a rate, year on year. It’s completely changed the industry. Some labels seem to still be trying to dictate to people what they should like, but a look at the sales figures at the top of the singles charts suggests that people aren’t listening anymore. There’s so much free music out there, and this has helped to diversify peoples tastes, people are buying more types of music that they mightn’t necessarily have otherwise. That can only be a good thing.”

And beyond all that, what other hopes do you have for the future?

“I’ve been doing visual work for a while now in the Savoy, and it’s awakened ideas of new possibilities in me. I’d like to experiment more with High-Definition cameras. The idea of getting into video production appeals to me; I’ve been working on some conceptual stuff, you know, short films and the music to go with them… What I would love would be to be able to make a living from art in Montreal; art, and art alone; visual work and music. It’s the certainly the dream. So who knows?”

Coming soon: Sónar 2006 Report